Oh, so your solution/post wasn't a special snow flake after all? :D

On a more serious note, pretty much every argument has been discussed here and finding a solution is really not that easy.

But I think CCP are still planning on that intel gathering structure, which is what people are waiting for. Maybe within the context of the new structure, afk-cloaking isn't a thing. One just gotta be patient.

From your locked thread....

No, it is more like 5 or 6 injectors and since you can only fit those items to certain ships, more than that and longer training times that you are implying. You should make your ratting ships your defensive fleet if you have an AFK cloaker in system(s). Rat in groups, with PvP fit ships. Be on comms, be in fleet. Take measures to protect yourself from this potential threat.

Your solutions are old and tired and they punish non-AFK cloaking players such as people doing exploration or who are actively hunting with cloaking ships.

All your other activities you point out need player attention actually get you stuff--minerals, ISK, loot, etc. Since AFK cloaking gets the person doing it nothing why should it require effort. Why should I have to expend effort to do literally nothing? That just sounds so stupid based on the inherent contradiction: to do nothing you should expend effort.

Oh, and if the guy is pressing d-scan he is not AFK. Nobody AFK can press d-scan...why would they even want too?

Seriously, you started a thread for which not only is there an open thread but stickied as well. BTW on the first page is a list of all the ****** ideas people have come up with regarding cloaking. You might want to read through it so you don't just regurgitate all that stupid all over your future posts.

You kinda did by stating that I "polluted" your post or at least you insinuated that I degraded the value of your thread by my response.

Your thread was **** from the start. I merely provided you with a different view from yours.

You've never lived in a WH, have you?

Aight, I'll retract my statement that your thread was ****, since we are starting to be a bit more civilized. However, it was redundant as you can see by the 419 pages of this threadnaught.

Given that this topic has been discussed to death and no one really knows how to optimally solve this problem with the current mechanics, you shouldn't hope for a direct response from CCP. Their response is basically, the fact that they are working on some form of intel structure.

A)This would be a fine solution if local wasn't 100% instant, reliable intel, and equally if not more devoid of risk. If you had to risk something to get intel, then it would make sense that cloaking wasn't quite so 'free' either. Cloaking and Local are equally broken mechanics that combine to make a rather level playing field.

B)If they are camping one system, move to another.

C)Have you ever been counter-dropped? It's like this - in places like Providence, you never have to worry about a counter-drop, as the residents are seldom organized enough or have the sense of unity to actually defend their space. Camping one system is extremely effective, and can shut it down. If you do the same thing to an entity that is organized and committed to their space, you will find a preponderance of bait in your camped system. Actively hunting has a bit of a lower chance of finding deliberate bait.

D)Typically you should try the activity from both sides before decrying it as broken. Have you cloaky camped?

It takes no effort to gate camp in lowsec or nullsec either. People can just sit at gates camping for hours, picking their noses, watching youtube videos, eating pizza, whatever.

You'll say "but you can never kill anyone if you never expend effort." Correct. And the cloaky camper you describe can never kill anyone if he never expends effort too.

If you want something done about cloaky campers to make your life much easier, I want something done about gate campers and lots of other types to make my life easier too.